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Soon There Could Be Only 49 States In America
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by Tyler Durden
Jan 28, 2017 12:26 PM
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Submitted by Carey Wedler via TheAntiMedia.org,

Activists in California have just taken an integral step that could leave America with only 49 states in the near future. Yes California, a pro-secession organization, received approval Thursday to begin collecting signatures from residents to put “Calexit” on the ballot for a 2019 special election.

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Yes California has been working toward secession for some time, but with President Donald Trump’s election last year, their efforts gained momentum as frustrated residents questioned their willingness to bow down to a president they don’t support. According to a poll conducted by Reuters/Ipsos this month, nearly one in three supports secession — a sharp uptick from a similar survey conducted in 2014. With secession becoming a viable alternative, it’s possible that support may continue to grow.

The organization submitted their ballot proposal to California’s state government in November, and on Thursday, California Secretary of State Alex Padilla gave them the green light to begin collecting signatures. They need 585,407 people to sign their petition by July 25. If they succeed, the referendum will make it onto the 2018 ballot. If it passes, the state will hold a special election the following year. The Sacramento Bee reports:

“The proposed measure would strike language from the California Constitution defining the state as ‘an inseparable part of the United States of America, and the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land.’ If it passed, there would be a statewide special election in March 2019 to ask voters if they want California to become an independent country.”

Many Americans often joke about California leaving the union, highlighting how wildly different residents of the Golden State are from those of America’s heartland. Indeed, Yes California appears to agree.

“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” Marcus Ruiz Evans, one of the group’s founders, told the Los Angeles Times. “I think we’d have the votes today if we held it.”

In a recent post on their website announcing their progress, they wrote:

“In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children.”

It’s understandable why secession has become a proposed solution considering California has long struggled with many systemic problems. As Yes California points out:

“Although charity is part of our culture, when you consider that California’s infrastructure is falling apart, our public schools are ranked among the worst in the entire country, we have the highest number of homeless persons living without shelter and other basic necessities, poverty rates remain high, income inequality continues to expand, and we must often borrow money from the future to provide services for today, now is not the time for charity.”

Though Yes California points out practical reasons for secession, they also argue the underlying justification for their movement from a philosophical standpoint:

“However, this independence referendum is about more than California subsidizing other states of this country,” they write. “It is about the right to self-determination and the concept of voluntary association, both of which are supported by constitutional and international law.”

Further:

“It is about California taking its place in the world, standing as an equal among nations. We believe in two fundamental truths: (1) California exerts a positive influence on the rest of the world, and (2) California could do more good as an independent country than it is able to do as just a U.S. state.”

California has the sixth largest economy in the world, bolstered by the film industry, Silicon Valley, agriculture, and the state’s biggest cash crop — cannabis — which voters legalized in November.

While the practical and philosophical reasons for secession are compelling, it’s doubtful many residents are looking beyond President Donald Trump. California leans heavily to the left, and Democrats hold a supermajority in both houses of the state legislature. California was largely responsible for Hillary Clinton’s popular vote victory.

Further, though Yes California stresses the importance of voluntary association, it’s doubtful an independent California government would ask taxpayers what programs they’d like to fund. Ultimately, though California as a country would certainly be beneficial for decentralization and localization efforts, it would operate as a government and, as such, force Californians to participate.

Nevertheless, the movement reflects undeniable divisions within the United States, especially in the era of Donald Trump. Other states are also eyeing secession, including Texas, Washington, and Oregon.

As Anti-Media observed shortly after the election:

“People are rioting and protesting over Trump’s win throughout California but celebrating in Alabama, and against the backdrop of an ever-encroaching federal government, it appears these differences are growing difficult to reconcile.”

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Haus-Targaryen’s picture
Haus-Targaryen Jan 28, 2017 12:27 PM

Please dear God let this happen.

Would be hilarious if there was a vote in California and everyone voted for it, because, why not?

EPIC!
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peddling-fiction Haus-Targaryen Jan 28, 2017 12:28 PM

Carey Wedler is a seditious bitch.
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BabaLooey peddling-fiction Jan 28, 2017 12:32 PM

Lots of bluster – not enough muster.

This is where their “motor-voter” illegal cabal of “Press 2’s” DON’T show up and vote for this.

The Mexillegals need their FEDERAL government cheeeeeeeeeese.

Governor FartPak and the clowns in Excremento need a big fat dose of reality.

Too bad they’re probably all hanging out in Humboldt county, sampling the local cash crop.
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D Nyle BabaLooey Jan 28, 2017 12:33 PM

Why Wait
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InjectTheVenom D Nyle Jan 28, 2017 12:34 PM

>>>> Cali should stay OR

>>>> Cali should GTFO
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TahoeBilly2012 InjectTheVenom Jan 28, 2017 12:39 PM

5th Generation Northern Californian here. This can happen ONLY if State of Jefferson stays in the US, which is Northern Counties, North Central Valley, Sierra Nevada and North Coast.

I say build the wall from SF, across north of Stockton then hook down the rap around Fresno, that’s 2 our of 3 shit holes we can say good bye to. SF, we would like to keep but the Liberals from god knows where and the Silicon Valley has taken over, so fuck it.
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robertsgt40 TahoeBilly2012 Jan 28, 2017 12:42 PM

Great idea. I just request after California leaves, their citizens will need a visa to enter the US. Maybe another wall eh?
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JungleCat robertsgt40 Jan 28, 2017 12:48 PM

Why is it OK for California to seceded, but it wasn’t OK for South Carolina to secede?

When you are morally superior, the law be damned.
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knukles JungleCat Jan 28, 2017 12:55 PM

Democratic party outside CA will never allow it as the number of electoral and individual votes disappears so that they’d never ever again hold the congress or administration.
Ain’t gonna happen
Plus, majority of CA is against secession. About 70% say no.
This at this juncture is staging and political capital feel goodies

And YES Honest to God, CA Progressives view themselves as Royalty, making One Major Error.
They think that the rest of America thinks like the people of the CA coast.
Nope.
But that’s what they believe.

Horrible self centerdness
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OfAllElaboratePlans knukles Jan 28, 2017 1:02 PM

2 less jews in the US Senate

#WINNING
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Manthong OfAllElaboratePlans Jan 28, 2017 1:13 PM

Fake effort, Fake News

Without a Convention of the States, it cannot happen peacefully.

But if it comes to Civil War 2.0, there are enough troops and aircraft there already to rid us of all the fruits and nuts as well as the illegals.

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edotabin Manthong Jan 28, 2017 1:28 PM

I’ve been there many times and even did a bit of business there. Very pretty place. I’ll be dead set against California leaving but the peeps are so whacky that everything else is overridden and superceded. In their standard tradition, they took a great place and turned into a shithole. Bye!

Besides, the fault lines may ultimately determine the future of that state.
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MANvsMACHINE edotabin Jan 28, 2017 1:36 PM

Trump is going to have to build a long fucking wall.
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Koba the Dread edotabin Jan 28, 2017 2:25 PM

And if California sinks into the ocean, as the mystics and statistics say it will, the part that sinks–the new Atlantis–is where all the granolas live. Granolas! Granolas, you know! Granola is flakes, fruits and nuts.
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MalteseFalcon Manthong Jan 28, 2017 2:10 PM

I don’t care if California does subsidize other states.

In 1861, the South subsidized the North.

Thru exports the South earned the nation’s “hard currency”.

That didn’t stop the Union army.

California is American land and it’s going nowhere.

I didn’t give my son the name “Grant” for no good reason.

I would be reluctant to shoot my fellow Americans, but these are Californians we’re talking about.
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Koba the Dread MalteseFalcon Jan 28, 2017 2:27 PM

Perha[s even put a bounty on Californians!
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MalteseFalcon Koba the Dread Jan 28, 2017 2:54 PM

And land confiscation and war crimes tribunals.
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El Oregonian knukles Jan 28, 2017 1:36 PM

Yep, it’ll never happen… But boy, it sure is another great opportunity to financially shear the lefty sheep for “donations” one more time
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shamus001 knukles Jan 28, 2017 1:53 PM

That would mean that Democrats would have to have an ACTUAL plan to get votes, not just give out free shit to immigrants, and chant for xeno-genders! Democrats would actually have to embrace “American Core Values” once all of their odd-ball voters were locked away in the prison state/country that will become California.

What a GLORIOUS DAY that will be!
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DownWithYogaPants JungleCat Jan 28, 2017 12:55 PM

Same reason why lefties don’t have to follow the law if they don’t like it but you be raaaaacis an shit if you don’t like a law.
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Stuck on Zero DownWithYogaPants Jan 28, 2017 1:45 PM

California leaving … non!

Hollwood leaving … yes.
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TeamDepends TahoeBilly2012 Jan 28, 2017 12:43 PM

Chairman Moonbeam: And now a few words from Princess Pelosi.
Princess Pelosi: Well, we had to secede to find out what’s in secession. And it is a mixed, diverse bag! But our founding premise remains- from each according to their ability into our coffers, where we dispense it according to your needs, comrade!
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BabaLooey TeamDepends Jan 28, 2017 12:48 PM

Start referring to Brown as Governor FartPak T.D.- it’s his new “meme”.
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divingengineer TeamDepends Jan 28, 2017 1:11 PM

Few Questions: 1. What will they use for money? Not USD.
2. They will issue debt? What is thei debt to GDP at now?
3. Who will pay the welfare checks?
4. What if the other 49 states declare war on them?
I don’t think the burnout hippies have thought this through.
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Muse minus Time divingengineer Jan 28, 2017 1:22 PM

Go ask Arnie, former Californicating gob….who just made some kind of deal with pedo-pope per 1.25.17 romereports.com
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HenryHall divingengineer Jan 28, 2017 1:31 PM

1. They will issue their own banknotes.

2. Their debt will be zero, but so will their share of Federal assets. The military will move their toys out but the Feds will still own the land of the bases and the Federal courts and other Federal buildings. If the Californians want to use those assets they will have to pay rent.

3. Any US citizen who wants welfare checks will have to relocate out of California.

4. If the US declares war on California then California will go to war. You don’t get a choice if another country declares war on you.
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Xena fobe divingengineer Jan 28, 2017 2:02 PM

I don’t think hippes are the proponents. They are too busy smoking mj.
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in4mayshun TahoeBilly2012 Jan 28, 2017 12:46 PM

I’m in the Sierra Nevada foothills and would love for the State of Jefferson to succeed, but realistically it will never happen just as Ca will never leave the union. California would collapse without Federal subsidies for all the welfare moms and illegal. I love trolling the Bay Area snowflakes though-it’s fun to wear my “Friends Don’t Let Friends Vote Democrat” shirt when I’m in the Bay.
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ctiger2 in4mayshun Jan 28, 2017 1:27 PM

It’s already guaranteed Calif will leave. Pack your bags…
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Xena fobe ctiger2 Jan 28, 2017 2:00 PM

Yes. I am surprised it took so long.
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Xena fobe ctiger2 Jan 28, 2017 2:00 PM

Yes. I am surprised it took so long.
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Xena fobe ctiger2 Jan 28, 2017 2:00 PM

Yes. I am surprised it took so long.
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Koba the Dread ctiger2 Jan 28, 2017 2:31 PM

So speaks the oracle.
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BabaLooey TahoeBilly2012 Jan 28, 2017 12:47 PM

Agreed.

Gerrymander it akin to John “Bridge Walking” Lewis’ district.

Certain counties in California ARE conservative, and have had to suffer the fools in Excremento for far too long.

Let those counties stay.

The rest of them, like Los Angeles country for real – get – the fuck out.

Like Bugs Bunny did to Florida here;

Bugs could saw Cali into the drink.

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in4mayshun BabaLooey Jan 28, 2017 12:59 PM

Here’s the deal- every business and industry in California that ACTUALLY contributes to the economy is largely run by Republican and conservative business owners. This group of people is not going to stand by while California voters shoot themselves in the foot and try to separate from the US. These business owners will move out of the state to Idaho, Texas, Nevada, etc. if by some miracle Ca actually succeeds at seceding, there would be only a carcass left of what was once the 5th largest economy in the world (now 6th).
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Muse minus Time in4mayshun Jan 28, 2017 1:18 PM

Southern Oregon, Douglas Co. would be part of the State of Jefferson, all the farmers, timber companies, winegrowers have discussed this move of succession as well. Douglas Co. Oregon is a red county as well as Eastern Oregon proposing to merge with Idaho.
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Jack’s Raging B… TahoeBilly2012 Jan 28, 2017 1:53 PM

You’ve got it backwards. Should CA peacefully secede, there would be zero legitimate reason to bar them. Should that happen, there would be no legitimate reason that CA could prevent Jefferson from seceding.

Free from the Fedcoats and free from the Left Coast. What a dream.
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mccvilb InjectTheVenom Jan 28, 2017 1:19 PM

Wow, time to fish or cut bait!

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Chief Wonder Bread InjectTheVenom Jan 28, 2017 2:34 PM

California stays. Of course understanding that this Cali secession thing is not really a serious issue but for crying in the alleyway, if the South wasn’t allowed to go, then why should Cali?

Trump is like Heracles and the Augean Stables, he has his work cut out for him in correcting a monumental pileup of shit.

Voter reform has to be foremost on his agenda. Clean up the voter rolls and suddenly we will discover California is not so irredeemable as many people thought. Hell he might even win Cali (and NY) if banish the thought only American citizens could vote.
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RiverRoad D Nyle Jan 28, 2017 1:14 PM

Yeah, quicker than waiting for them to crack off and fall in the sea.
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Raffie BabaLooey Jan 28, 2017 2:19 PM

They can have Hillary run the state with K0MR4D Bernie as Vice crook and all the HollyWeirdos as well running that state into the ground at full speed.
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tmosley peddling-fiction Jan 28, 2017 12:32 PM

They really shouldn’t be allowed to take the people of Jefferson and the Inland Empire with them. Those are clearly red areas on the election map.

Let them have the coastal flotsam. They’ll be crawling back in less than a decade, I’m sure.
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Max Cynical tmosley Jan 28, 2017 12:55 PM

The State of Jefferson would be the most conservative and mineral rich states in the nation.
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The Ram tmosley Jan 28, 2017 1:03 PM

Will not take a decade to crawl back. Once the Federal bennies stop flowing, rioting will take over within hours. I say, let them go. The snowflakes need a dose of reality anyway. Can’t get a better lesson in life than taking away your source of funding and see how many people reach out to support you.
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angryyoungman peddling-fiction Jan 28, 2017 1:04 PM

Sounds like a great idea.. just like taking Russia out of ZH
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JLee2027 peddling-fiction Jan 28, 2017 1:26 PM

Trump 2021 Budget plan calls for Wall around newly Independant California to protect us from illegals crossing from CA border to USA for “free stuff”.
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AlaricBalth Haus-Targaryen Jan 28, 2017 12:28 PM

We’re going to need a longer wall.
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PitBullsRule AlaricBalth Jan 28, 2017 12:34 PM

We may build the wall, because we know if we let you guys do it, you’ll fuck it up.
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Buckaroo Banzai AlaricBalth Jan 28, 2017 12:37 PM

California needs to go, but only under the condition that (1) they take ALL the illegal Mexicans that have poured into this country over the last 50 years, (2) the State of Jefferson is formed to become the new 50th state of the union, and (3) we get to keep San Diego and a strip of land long enough to connect it to Arizona.

Then we wall off California, grab a big bucket of popcorn, and WATCH IT BURN.
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Four chan Buckaroo Banzai Jan 28, 2017 12:54 PM

aka how mexico gets california back.

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